Rocket Mass Heaters: 10 Things You Need to Know
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Rocket mass heaters can save money you money on heating costs, reduce your environmental impact, and keep you warm in the coldest winters.
When I first heard about rocket mass heaters I was kind of skeptical. I read that they could eliminate something like 80-90% of the wood of a conventional stove and I thought, “Bah! That seems like a pretty unreasonable claim to me.” So I put on my investigative pants and got pretty obsessed.
One of the first articles that I came across was Paul Wheaton’s article on rocket mass heaters. He does a good job of breaking down the technology in a way that anyone can understand. So, I am going to relay some of his information as well as some other details I scrounged up!
I want to tell you about several of the reasons why rocket mass heating is so important. Let’s jump in.
#1 – What is the difference between a rocket mass heater and a wood stove?
Rocket Mass Heaters are like masonry heaters, except that people are building them for a LOT less money. They are super efficient, and hold the heat much longer than a conventional wood stove.
First, the sticks are put into the wood feed vertically. They are standing straight up. Then, only the bottoms of the sticks burn, and the fire burns sideways!
How does the fire burn sideways? The heat riser in the barrel is so insanely hot that it creates a convective current. This pulls the fire sideways into it.
Next, the thermosiphon draft pulls the smoke from the fire up into the riser and into the barrel. The sharp turn mixes that smoke with fire so it burns up the smoke in the secondary combustion chamber! Thus, it only leaves a tiny bit of CO2! It’s nearly purely steam. The image above illustrates this process.
#2 – How well do rocket stoves work?
Rocket stoves or heaters work exceptionally well. They are able to heat large areas while being very fuel efficient and clean burning. This makes them both economical and environmentally friendly ways to heat an interior space.
When the exhaust runs through the cob mass, the mass absorbs the extremely high heat. Then it slowly releases the heat over the course of a few days. This enables the rocket mass heaters to continue to provide heat for many hours after the fire has stopped.
This drastically reduces the amount of wood needed to sustain these bad boys. Some people heat their home using only dead yard debris and scrap wood, eliminating over $150/month in natural gas bills.
How much energy can rocket heaters put out?
The overall energy output can range drastically depending on the style and size. Some rocket mass heaters put out an equivalent of 250,000 BTUs.
How many square feet can a rocket mass heater heat?
Can a rocket mass heater heat your entire home? Probably! The max square footage rocket mass heaters can comfortably warm ranges from 800 square feet to 3000 square feet. The amount of heat depends on the type, size, and design of the unit.
What are the benefits of a rocket mass heater vs natural gas?
This one surprised me, because natural gas is supposed to burn really clean. I didn’t know wood COULD burn that clean. At high temperatures, wood burns down to steam and CO2, with a little bit of mineral ash left over.
Consider the environmental footprint of extracting natural gas (like fracking), refining, and the miles of pipes or delivery tanks that have to be in place for you to use it. By comparison, harvesting local wood looks pretty clean.
#3 – They are super comfy to sit on, like a full body heating pad.
Did you ever crouch over the heating vent in your nightie or pajamas, trying to get warm enough to get dressed? Good way to be late to school wasn’t it?
Moving hot air around is not an efficient way to heat things. Air doesn’t hold a lot of heat, plus it causes evaporation, which makes you colder. Forced-air heating is pretty inefficient. The reason it’s so common is that it’s relatively easy to control with thermostats and vents, and not as dangerous as steam heat.
These rocket mass heaters are more efficient like steam heat, but way less dangerous. The surface temperature is just warm to the touch. They are usually sculpted into heated seats or beds. If you need a warm-up boost, you just curl up and tuck your toes under the cushions.
Over-worked friends just kind of melt onto the bench when they come over for dinner.
#4 – Rocket mass heaters can be completely DIY.
These rocket mass heaters can most definitely be built by you and yourself alone. Ernie and Erica Wisner have taught tons and tons of workshops on how to build them. Respected teachers all over the world have, too!
This is not to say that is is 100% simple or fool proof. You definitely need to do your research and especially need to figure out which kind of rocket mass heater is best for your situation. However, with research and careful planning, you can definitely make one by yourself.
What is the best material for a rocket mass heater?
A big part of these rocket mass heaters being so efficient is the actual thermal “mass” part of them. There are several types of mass that have been experimented with, but the most common mass is made out of cob. (Cob is a natural building material made from sand, clay, water, some kind of fibrous or organic material (straw) and earth.)
#5 – You keep far more heat inside your house with a rocket mass heater than with a conventional wood stove.
A conventional wood stove uses a lot of the heat to push the smoke out of the house. With a rocket mass heater, the heat gets absorbed into the mass. This extracts as much heat as possible before the exhaust leaves the house.
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Can you burn a rocket stove indoors?
Yes, as long as your rocket stove has the proper venting. Large rocket mass heaters are designed specifically for indoor use to heat your whole house, tipi, or barn. Portable rocket heaters are typically not designed for indoor use. This brings us to…
Do rocket stoves need a chimney?
Rocket mass heaters or stoves must have an exhaust. This can be a chimney or pipe that creates the proper airflow and venting needed in the home.
#6 – People are living comfortably in a rocket mass heated tipi through Montana winters.
Like I said, up at Paul Wheaton’s land there is a ton of experimentation going on. One of the coolest rocket mass heater innovations he has is the one that is inside of the tipi. It is a traditional cob style rocket mass heater that heats a completely uninsulated canvas tipi.
Each of the people that have lived in it have reported utmost comfortability. This is huge because Montana gets down to -25 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter. I actually visited Paul’s land in December and got to hang out in the tipi. It was completely warm and toasty in there!
#7 – Rocket mass heaters use old technology with a new twist.
This taps into what I was saying earlier about the heat getting absorbed into the mass. What it does is mix modern science with knowledge from hundreds of years ago. We burn the smoke and capture heat from the exhaust, while focusing on utilizing the more efficient forms of heat. Radiant and conductive heat are favored over convective heat.
The new twist is using modern materials to make the building process cheaper and easier. We also make the heaters more effective at getting the heat where people want it. The heat is right where they can sit on it and tuck their cold toes under the cushions.
- Convection is heat exchange via moving air or water, which is how most of our standard heating systems work.
- Conduction happens when two surfaces touch each other – such as your body sitting on the warm stove exhaust.
- Radiant heat transfer happens when warmth radiates from a hot surface to strike another surface. It doesn’t require air movement. Examples include warmth radiating from a fire or from the sun.
#8 – There are many different kinds of rocket mass heaters.
The most popular design for a rocket mass heater is a 6” Annex Variation, but there are many different options. Here are a few:
- Daybed Bypass Variation
- Bonny Convection Bench Variation
- Batchbox Variation
- Cob Style
- Pebble Style
- Wood box Style Shippable Cores
- Small Molded Shippable Cores
- Rocket Mass Heater that doubles as a BBQ, cooker, and smoker
- Rocket Stove with a griddle, oven, and hot water
- Batch Box Variation with heat directed into the floor
Portable Rocket Wood Stoves vs Built-in Rocket Mass Heaters for Home
Portable rocket wood stoves are used for camping or just being warm while outside on your homestead. The overall concept is similar to that of a rocket mass heater – burn hot and fast, and trap heat in the mass.
Rocket mass heaters are designed to warm larger areas for a longer period of time, due to their larger size and mass. Portable rocket wood stoves are much smaller, so they don’t hold as much heat.
See the Ecozoom Rocket Stove Review for more information on portable rocket stoves.
#9 – How much do Rocket Mass Heaters Cost to Build
The cost for these heaters varies greatly. DIY options can be anywhere from $50-1,000 to build yourself, while hiring a contractor can cost upwards of $5,000 in some cases.
#10 – What are the disadvantages of rocket stoves?
Some people may not love the large size of these stoves and the look of the mass used to retain the stove’s heat. The DIY models definitely have a more rustic look that’s not a fit for every home.
You also need a solid foundation, as the mass of the stove is heavy.
Final Thoughts
Rocket mass heaters provide a multitude of opportunities for heating your home in a clean, efficient, cheap way. They create a uniquely comfortable living area, and use local fuel.
To get a quick look at how a rocket mass heater works and “meet” Paul, Ernie, and Erica, you can watch the video below.
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Cassie Langstraat grew up under the big blue skies of Montana. She has a fire in her soul for all things regarding literature, permaculture, and feminism. When she isn’t writing or poking around in her garden, she enjoys reading philosophical novels, fishing in the dark, and eating cheeses with names she can’t pronounce.
Originally posted in 2015, last updated in 2023.
The efficient burn does not reduce the amount of CO2 produced (for a given amount of wood). If anything it increases the production of C02. This is not a bad thing however, as the longer chain carbon compounds (smoke) are worse for the environment, and C02 is prefferable.
I would like to build a double layered one, so bench along the bottom, then reading nook higher up. (I had seen a picture of one like this, I think made by a german company) would the bend in the exhaust pipe to get to the second level cause me problems do you think? Also could I then vent it up an existing chimney rather than a horixontal exhaust? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
The longer the run, the more potential for your fire to not draw as effectively as it should up the chimney. Venting up an existing chimney shouldn’t be a problem if everything is sized correctly, but you should really work directly with someone who has experience building these to make you you get your calculations right.
I wonder what the ratio of the burn tube vs the discharge tube is.
Also does the opening for the fuel/air supply need to be smaller or the same size as the discharge tube (aka chimney tube)?
Any thought about ducting outside air in for combustion instead of using already heated inside air?
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You’d need to contact the rocket stove peeps directly for their specific design preferences. Unfortunately, they’re long since given up responding to comments on the post.
Per my experience with our masonry stove, which has some common elements, we do use a dedicated fresh air feed. It has a standard 8 inch diameter pipe for air intake, which then travels down an interior wall and around the stove to wash the glass at the front of the stove. I think our chimney is also an 8 inch, because the stove is located in the basement so the chimney height is quite tall.
Thx for the nice article. I’m down with rocket stoves, totally, but I wouldn’t be happy having to look at something so ugly in my house every day. Do you know of any examples where they have been decorated or camouflaged to look nice? If so, I’d love to see some pics. As you mentioned, masonry stoves are expensive but they can also be built to be beautiful and blend in with a person’s chosen decor.
I’m not sure if the photos in the post weren’t loading for you, but I changed some settings and hopefully you can see them now. You can finish a rocket stove in a variety of ways, as shown in the photos.
Yes and yes. just plan your fireplace or wall. that can incorporate the rmh technology. It could be beautiful.
I live in a cabin built on concrete piers; no way to retrofit a rmh inside. Can anyone think of a way to build the heater outside along an exterior wall and bring heat inside?
The whole point of a rocket mass heater is to keep that hot mass inside the building, so putting it outside is counter-intuitive. If you could put supportive pilings at a similar depth to your current pilings, and put a load bearing concrete slab on top of them, you should be able to put a stove on top of that, but having it outside the building envelope – well, I probably wouldn’t bother with a RMH.
Thanks.
The only way I see is cut out a hole in the floor and install a slab in the ground to support the weight above it .
Seperated by standoff legs and insulated around those legs to minize heat flow from the weight above.
Instead of COB I would be switching to a 275 gal fuel oil tank sitting above floor level and filled with water instead.
The tank would have to be fitted with several heat ducts coiled inside.
Why not build an extra room into your cabin and locate RMH in there?
I live in a residential neighborhood. Does anyone ever have legal problems building one of these for their home or shop? I am seriously considering one for my small shop, one reason is that the chimney regulations for a regular wood stove are really expensive to implement.
You’d have to check with your local building code. My guess is that they would require any sort of combustion device to follow the same guidelines.
How do you get the fire/draft started? Lighting the vertical wood with a cold stove and flue will caused the fire/smoke to back into the house?
For draft getting fire started. Why not replace that costly chinney altogether with a powered draft fan like used on the latest
furnaces. Put it on thermostat control?
dose the RMH have to be ( built on ground level ), we live in a raised house. so what is the weight capacity of a RMH itserlf
Rocket mass heaters, by their nature, tend to be very heavy. Load bearing capacity of the heater itself would vary, depending on materials used and how they are used. It is generally best to build them at ground level. An elevated build would need to be strongly supported.
I don’t know the exact weight of cob but it’ll be close to the weight of concrete
118 lb/cuft
I think an average mass would be in the range of 3000lbs. That’s just the mass not the burn unit.
You can use an empty stone bench like an upside-down bathtub with the entry pipe vents hot gases to the top of the chamber stratifying the gases extremely hot at the top and cooler and cooler as you fill the space.
The exit pipe is at the bottom to go up and out to the chimney.
Or you can use pebbles in a box to hold the pebbles together. heat pipes run in a similar design to the cob bench.
Some great info on building the rocket mass heater, My question is by super cooling the exshaust gases yo’ll get condesation of water this can be a very powerful acid and how do you work with this also not in you video but others used galv. pipe for thermoal mass flue would this acid water not eat it thru it should flue be ceramic type
Gary you bring up a good point cooling whether slow or fast condenses steam. So far I haven’t see any design with a water trap like power vent furnaces use but personally I would put one in.
The pipe used in the cob benches isnt really required. You could use brick and cement then just cob around it
good information, great pics and video, I like the use of sheet metal and firebricks, thank you so much.
Those are some great pics of mine that were posted in this article of the rmh being built in the wofati we lived in montana.
Could this heat a second floor if the rmh was on the first floor? Or how big of an area could it heat?
Generally, most I’ve seen have been geared to single level/relatively small spaces. We have a traditional masonry stove in our basement, and very little heat reaches the main level from the stove.
I would say a duct/hole over the riser/barrel would cause the heat to rise into upper level. But I’m a newbie 😛
I see no reason why doing a ceiling duct to the second floor wouldn’t work.
When both my wife were growing you we sleep in the upstairs with
a ceiling duct above the only stove in the house before furnaces
I love the rocket mass heater (RMH) concept. I hope to build one someday for my own home. However….
In the section #1, you erroneously state that RMH’s somehow mange to produce less CO2 and more stream which, according to the chemistry of combustion, is impossible.
RMH’s more efficiently and completely burn the wood fuel AND capture more of the heat than conventional wood stoves. But the carbon in the wood CAN’T turn into water vapor (H20). It has to turn into CO2 or CO.
To state otherwise might suggest that a RMH has a smaller Carbon footprint due to less CO2 produced from the wood, which is incorrect. It might have a smaller Carbon footprint because it burns wood fuel more efficiently and captures heat more effectively resulting in less fuel used.
I’m a little late to this discussion but would like to point this out: you’re right but unless its since been edited, the article only claimed “a little CO2” not “less CO2.” Nor does it claim conversion of CO2 to steam.
Granted, not very precise but not the same as claiming what you describe. Also, the only fuels listed are renewable biomass therefore it doesn’t actually have a net carbon emission, basically no carbon footprint at all.
“The sharp turn mixes that smoke with fire so it burns up the smoke! Thus, only leaving a tiny tiny bit of CO2! It’s nearly purely steam.”
I suspect that that is the line that George objected to. I think that because it’s the reason I came down here – to write a similar comment. The implication is that the smoke is burned up, consuming the CO2 and somehow converting it into steam. You don’t wind up with a tiny, tiny bit of CO2 – most of the mass of the exhaust gas is CO2 if you’re burning dry wood.
A later line is clearer, but this one is messy at best.
There is a lot of misinformation being generated here. Sorry.
One of the major by-products of the combustion process chemically is water.
All hydroCarbon fuels contain hydrogen Atoms and Carbon Atoms.
The moisture in wood has zero to do with water as a byproduct though it adds to it.
The process known is fire or combustion with oxygen in the air creates a byproduct with two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen Atom. Also called H2O or water. End of story…fact. Everyone reading this articles posts should do your own homework.
Great article, but the comments are 50-50 in the fact area.
Example… Catalytic heaters which I have one in my motorhome. Are almost 100 efficientin the combustion process. No CO is created only water vapor. The windows and the entire inside a soaked in water vapor after 4 hours. After 5 years im somehow still alive. PS… im a combustion engineer with a degree in chemistry and physics. This is a good article with skeptics posting. Getting the wood combustion to these high temperatures with the extraction of the exhaust gas heat is beautiful.
Still a lot of work.
So, what is being released outside of the home? Will this smoke out the neighbors, or release harmful vapors from burning chemically treated wood? I care about the natural environment and want to be a responsible citizen of my neighborhood…not poisoning anyone, or causing distress to an asthmatic.
Thank you!
Hello, I know this is an old thread, but I’m curious about using this rocket heater design with other fuel sources. Specifically, can it be used with natural gas? I understand that this might defeat the purpose of using a cheaper fuel source, but I’m interested in knowing if it’s technically safe and if it would burn natural gas (or other fuels) more efficiently than commonly used devices.
By comparison, natural gas heating systems already tend to burn fairly efficiently (you don’t have the solids of wood burning) and you would have to ensure that the exhaust gases retained enough heat to exit the structure and not hang around in a chimney, potentially leaking back into the home. It’s not a simple matter of substituting one fuel for another. To couple thermal mass with natural gas, a more typical approach would be something like a boiler with heat exchanger providing heat for in floor radiant heating.
I also like the RMH concept. But let’s do some thinking here.
All mass heaters have warm the mass first before you get warmed.
the heat is delayed. So if you come home from work expecting a cosy nest
you’re going to wait till the mass gets warmed up. Unless someone has keep it up.
If you are thinking of putting a RMH in anything movable, expect cracks, because
the more ridge the mass will be more brittle.
We have a large masonry stove, and that retains heat for over 24 hours. Not sure about the heat retention on these types of units.
When you say yours retains heat for 24 hrs.
several questions
How many cubic feet of COB ?
What outside temp?
Take a infrared thermometer and give me some reading.
The hottest and lowest temp of the mass.
Please
My masonry stove is a Tempcast kit with brick facade, no cob. Outside temp never gets so hot that I can’t comfortably touch it. I would estimate that hottest mass temp in the low 100s, and lowest mass temp is house temp because it’s in the center of the home.
If you burn less wood, you create less CO2. It’s the most efficient way to generate heat from a fuel source, so it will produce less CO2.
I am investigating turning a small horse lorry into a tiny house, and wondering if it would be possible to incorporate a small version of a Rocket Stove fur cooking and heating such a small area, without using the cob?
The trouble with what you propose is that to cook on a rocket stove without the oil barrel is that one normally would cook over the heat riser and you would end up with a smokey truck. If you had the barrel over the riser you could cook on the top of it and you would need to vent the exhaust from the base and take a stack out of the side [or roof] of the truck. You would be losing most of your heat that way as the point and effect of the mass is to retain the heat for a long time. If you just exhaust straight out most of the heat will escape with the draw up the flue.
Matt Walker has a RMH that he uses to cook on, He is one of the pioneers in the field, see link below to his “tiny masonry cook stove and heater”
http://walkerstoves.com/tiny-masonry-cook-stove-plans.html
i love the idea of building a rmh in the cabin i’m starting but i don’t have room to build a bench like most of these show do you have any sugestions?
You could use it for radiant heat flooring.
There are variants that use a masonry (brick) “bell” which is basically a hollow area in which the hot air stratifies with its exhaust at the bottom of the bell. These can be built vertically and have a footprint of approx. 2.5 x 3.5 foot and about 4-5 foot tall. It’s like standing the bench on end. Care should be taken in the area of initial exhaust area using firebrick. Internal routing of the hot air inside the bell would first go through the firebrick/refractory cement area and be cooled enough so that common red clay brick (not cement brick) will be used for the outer walls of the bell.
There are batch style RMH burn boxes that take less fueling and wood prep compared to a J or L type
I have been looking at RMH for some time. We recently moved into a house with an brick fireplace that has what I am guessing is a mass heater on the side. At one point the fireplace had a gas insert installed. I am wondering if this fireplace could be converted to a RMH. Can anyone lead me in the right direction?
I’d tried inquiring with a local heating contractor to identify what’s going on with your unit, or searching for rocket mass groups in your area. Offhand, that doesn’t sound like an RMH setup, but it’s impossible to say without being able to look the whole thing over in person.
Great article. I haven’t made a heater yet, but have used the “J” to make a great BBQ grill. It’s a “J” made of black sheet iron stovepipe with a BBQ grill at the top of the J supported by a stand, and it’s inside a woodshed that is covered by a roof but is mostly open to the outside air. I use kindling sized wood and dried plant stalks as fuel and grill every Sunday for me and my GF. The unit works great. Getting it to draft is tricky sometimes until the “rocket effect” starts, then it’s great from then on.
We have a similar effect in our Tempcast masonry stove. The draw isn’t terribly strong until it gets up to temp.
I’ve seen RMS idea applied to greenhouses.
Why not move that heavy COB mass to the basement and take the heavy load off the floor?
You could raise the heated mass to 160-200F reducing the mass. And draw off that mass as needed.
Use water instead. set up like a hot water boiler system?
because. 1cu/ft concrete 1 degF stores 23 btu wear as 1 cu/fi water weights 62 lbls/cu ft giving 2.7 times more
per cu ft.
500 gal insulated water tank x 8.34 x 90deg could allow 15000btu/hr for a whole day.
OR
use (2) 275 gal fuel oil tanks.
Plus use a power vent system if needed. Still the RM heating part to get a clean burn.
I think the most important part is to burn all the fuel completely before any heat is passed to a heat exchanger.
Moreover
Chimneys depend on temp difference from top to bottom for a draw.
I prefer a stainless steel ceramic wool wrapped. min mass to warm up.
I don’t know min temp needed for a good draw but I’m searching.
one problem is getting a chinney draw with a cold mass. Some have used a temp bypass
in their flue. i think it could be setup with a bimetal coil to automaticly control min flue temp.
Using (2) 275 tanks could make it a gravity heat flow. But the tanks would have to be modified
with heat tubes welded in to heat the water.
I have a rocket stove that has a pellet hopper and is gravity fed. I love it. It heats my home easily. I’m 72 so chopping wood is out of the question. My stove is able to burn sticks 2 1/2 ft long by up to 2″ around. But with the hopper set in the feed tube it holds a bag of pellets and lasts 24 hours.
It doesn’t have the heat mass to radiate heat but each style has its strengths. For this great grandma my heater is perfect. It has the double walled heat collection chamber. Its fabricated of Harvey metal. It can draw air from indoors or with pipe added it can draw from outside. The flat top of the outer chamber is 16″ across. I keep 3 gal of water hot on top and I can heat food or cook on top. At the side of the burn chamber there is a wide metal lip where I keep a tea pot warm on one side and a tall 2 1/2 cup covered pot of coffee or soup repeats. I keep an old small mental roaster to catch ashes in when i clean the burn area. This stove is sold with a long handled scraper to clean out ashes.
If my home is cold when i start a fire I have a 7″ fan that I turn on to blow on the heat chamber and start moving heat through the home. At -16 this winter my mobile home (16×56) stayed comfortable.
Thanks for this useful info! I like the idea of a gravity fed pellet situation.
I like switching to continious pellet feed idea. regular RMS design sound good till I realize I ‘m going to chop the wood smaller. Feed it oftener. Cause there’s not enough mass to store enough heat all night. Sedore stove Canadian, and Tarm boiler made New England area. both top feed and bottom burn sideways. And use secondary air to complele combustion. As far as the claim it saves wood compared to what ? A fireplace ? I give credit to the newer stoves (Vermont Casting line) having a much higher effenency the the old style. I seriously doubt RMS claim do much better. Factories using coal. Power it to dust and blow it into a fuelized chamber not air controlled but fuel controlled. burn very effecent.
Thanks with your info with your gravity fed pellet hopper!
Is there any noise generated by a RMH? I’ve never actually seen one in operation, and heard that the strong draft is what gives the “rocket” in the name…
I don’t have a standard rocket mass heater, but I do have a masonry stove, which is similar, and it’s no noisier than a normal fire.
The sound is hard to describe. It’s not exactly noisy, it’s just the sound or air being pulled into the pipe, and the burning wood crackling, which in the case of my BBQ grill is a six inch pipe. You could almost compare the sound to a woodstove door left wide open while the fire is burning inside it, but as the fire area of the “J” is so much smaller, the sound is less than that. Also less noisy than say, an open fireplace, again because the fire is much smaller.
Thanks, Dan.
Hi Laurie,
Do you know any one can
build me a rocket mass heater from start to finish.
I am so excited about the
concept come with the
bench. I live in Colorado.
Thank you!
I’m a novice in the rocket mass community, but hopefully some others who are watching this comment thread may have some suggestions.
Did you ever build your RMH? I live in Black Forest and am curious. Thx!
I live in Black Forest, CO and am slowly building my dream after total loss of my home during the 2013 wildfire. I plan to build one, hopefully in the coming year and hope to offer a shared experience. There is a healthy group of similarly-minded folks around. Stay in touch, please. Any others nearby?
I am slowly rebuilding after losing my house in the 2013 Black Forest (Colorado) fire. I hope to give this a try and am willing to share my experiences. Any others nearby interested in collaborating?
I am an engineering intern will help with rocket mass stoves.
What about carbon monoxide? Is that an issue in a well insulated home? I guess you safe a lot of fuel, but its still an open fire in your home.
Has anyone experience with this issue?
There is no carbon monoxide able to get in your home with a properly built mass rocket heater. The exhaust is forced out of the home by design. For technical details watch some of the youtube videos. Thx
As Rudy notes, the combustion gases should remain contained within the unit until they exit the dwelling. Here’s a demonstration:
Do you have a book on mass rocket stoved?
How much do they weigh?
Sand filled for eg.
The couple featured in this post did put out a book, “The Rocket Mass Heater Builder’s Guide: Complete Step-by-Step Construction, Maintenance and Troubleshooting“.
Weight varies greatly depending on the materials used and design of the stove, but a typical rocket mass heater’s masonry may weigh 3–6 tons.
What I would like to know is how does this affect the neighbors? The environment? If someone burns wood that was treated with chemicals such as paint or formaldehyde, does that go out into the neighborhood and poison the environment? Or is it all contained in the heater and turned to ash? I would think that the fumes and smoke have to go somewhere. I have sensitivities to smoke and chemical odors, so before I consider making one of these for our home, I really need to know! 🙂 Thank you!
I personally avoid burning anything chemically treated. Even if it were contained in the ash, I use my ash in my gardens and orchards.
There is no “away”.
1 Pressure Treated 2x6x8 has enough cyanide to kill 250 humans. DON’T EVER BURN PRESSURE TREATED WOOD IT CAN KILL YOU!!! Wood additives can range from Deadly to unknown when burned. Poison will contaminate the Stove, air, ash and you.
Any combustion can and does produce carbon monoxide. These kinds of stoves are worse than a regular wood stove because the exhaust has little odor. These stoves are often home made and the exhaust is so cool it may settle in a low place. This is circular reasoning at it’s finest. If it poisoned you it was improperly built, if it was improperly built if poisoned you. Get a bunch of carbon monoxide detectors and use them all over. There are to many variables wind directions trees roofs that can cause freak conditions, and gas build up.I like rocket mass heating but it is not a saint. It will you as dead as any other combustion
I have one in my home. You must remember that carbon monoxide is flammable to when heated in these things so it gets burned up
I’m quite familiar with rocket stoves and variations on that theme because I’ve built several. I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate the this clearly written piece on the subject. Well done.
Mark
Glad you approve.
in a RM heater: How is burn rate controlled? By the amount of wood burning at the time?
modern wood stoves like Vermont Casting add secondary air which completes combustion without
increasing burn rate. On RM how is this handled?
With our masonry stove (which is similar), there is no controlling the burn. The goal is to burn as hot and fast as possible, and then close down the chimney and fresh air feed, trapping the heat in the masonry. The masonry then slowly emits the heat over time. Ours stays warm for over 24 hours, but we burn twice per day in cold weather to boost the output as high as possible. It’s not recommended that we burn any more than this, as there is only so much thermal capacity in the masonry.
I’ve built serveral waste oil burners and know how quickly a steel unit burns out
and I’ve checked the max temp at 1050 max using my infrared thermometer.
and had to replace it yearly.
I know that 50 gal barrel going to burn thru quickly as well. But it appears none
has used the designed long emough to get a feed back on what problems lay ahead.
I’m with you. I know plenty of people use 50 gallon drums for burn barrels, and eventually those fall apart, and conditions in a burn barrel are a lot cooler than a rocket stove. I offer space for alternatives here on the site, because I know a lot of people want less expensive DIY options. In our home, we went with a refractory cement masonry heater kit with brick facade, and there has still been settling and decreased burn efficiency over the years. (Our chimney guy has been working to find and seal all air leaks each year when he comes out.)
I’m seeing pictures of RM with barrel matted in with COB
And I’ve noted few recent posts. Makes me wonder if there’re not
many interested in RM because it’s not insurable or meeting building regulations.
I got a plumber who heats his shop with a 12in dia infra red tube running along 2.5 ft under
the roof level but above all else under it.
I like that idea as an alternative and forget the mass feeding continually with pellets.
but using the burn chamber.
A lot of alternative building techniques have a tough time meeting code/getting insurance. Of course, many willing to build that way are also inclined not to have insurance/be off grid/unregulated.
The IR tube transfers heat well to the rest of the building? It doesn’t just give a hot spot near the ceiling?